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Tulkas
Nombre de messages : 3545 Age : 42 Localisation : Under the sea
| Sujet: Re: World Cup 2023 : Et si la France l'organisait ? Lun 25 Nov - 17:35 | |
| - Colonel Castor a écrit:
- Ægir a écrit:
- 282 000 €, plus d'1/4 de million d'€.
Ah oui, quand même ^^ C'est pas la kermesse du coin et son budget de plumes et barbe à papa ! | |
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DwarfKeeper
Nombre de messages : 735 Age : 42 Localisation : Chateaubernard
| Sujet: Re: World Cup 2023 : Et si la France l'organisait ? Lun 25 Nov - 18:51 | |
| - Tulkas a écrit:
- Colonel Castor a écrit:
- Ægir a écrit:
- 282 000 €, plus d'1/4 de million d'€.
Ah oui, quand même ^^ C'est pas la kermesse du coin et son budget de plumes et barbe à papa !
C'est juste le budget alcool d'Eckho pour le trimestre. | |
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tojurub
Nombre de messages : 98
| Sujet: Re: World Cup 2023 : Et si la France l'organisait ? Mar 26 Nov - 0:13 | |
| Hi French coaches, just some comments on the 282,000€. This number includes EVERYTHING. Also the miniatures and pitches and also the airport shuttle busses, which were all paid extra from the participants and was not included in the ticket fee. People on FB complain about my statement that I can't publish the details, but this is because we have contracts with venue, miniature manufacturer, pitch manufacturer, dice producer and other companies involved, who gave us a discounts and they don't want this be known by the public.... without these discounts we would have reached the half-million euro easily. As Tulkas wrote, I'll be at the Bowl des Neiges next year and you can ask me any question you like, I'll try to answer all of them (as long as you ask me in English or German ) | |
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tojurub
Nombre de messages : 98
| Sujet: Re: World Cup 2023 : Et si la France l'organisait ? Mar 26 Nov - 0:30 | |
| - Tyra a écrit:
- Si je sais bien lire (ce qui est loin d'être le cas en anglais ^^), d'après leur tableau, on aurait dû payer 41€80 l'inscription ? Au lieu de quasi 100 ?
The numbers of the first cost estimate were created January 2017. The final numbers of the ticket prices were announced in July 2018. In the meantime many many things changed or were added or we just did a better recalculation. Trust me, if you do an estimate on an event of unknown size (back in 2016/17 we did not know how many people we will get) and you need to think about things you usually don't have to worry about when running a smaller even, your first estimate will be way too low. Or would you know how much taxes you'd need to pay? E.g. in Austria there are 3 different tax rates: 7%, 13% and 20%. Try figuring this out by yourself... we had to take a professional tax advisor (the first one we had, was an incompetent idiot and we had to pay a penalty to the government). Legal fees for founding the official club was much higher in Austria than what I knew from Germany (1500€ compared to 60€).... all these small things just add up. So if you have your first estimate spot on, you must be a magician or a professional cost estimator of sports events... I'm not either of them | |
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Tulkas
Nombre de messages : 3545 Age : 42 Localisation : Under the sea
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Bojo
Nombre de messages : 2103 Age : 47 Localisation : Esclave des orgas de tournois
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Pilaf
Nombre de messages : 2535 Age : 37 Localisation : Association des Canuts Lard
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Tyra
Nombre de messages : 3966
| Sujet: Re: World Cup 2023 : Et si la France l'organisait ? Mar 26 Nov - 8:14 | |
| - tojurub a écrit:
- Tyra a écrit:
- Si je sais bien lire (ce qui est loin d'être le cas en anglais ^^), d'après leur tableau, on aurait dû payer 41€80 l'inscription ? Au lieu de quasi 100 ?
The numbers of the first cost estimate were created January 2017. The final numbers of the ticket prices were announced in July 2018. In the meantime many many things changed or were added or we just did a better recalculation.
Trust me, if you do an estimate on an event of unknown size (back in 2016/17 we did not know how many people we will get) and you need to think about things you usually don't have to worry about when running a smaller even, your first estimate will be way too low. Or would you know how much taxes you'd need to pay? E.g. in Austria there are 3 different tax rates: 7%, 13% and 20%. Try figuring this out by yourself... we had to take a professional tax advisor (the first one we had, was an incompetent idiot and we had to pay a penalty to the government). Legal fees for founding the official club was much higher in Austria than what I knew from Germany (1500€ compared to 60€).... all these small things just add up. So if you have your first estimate spot on, you must be a magician or a professional cost estimator of sports events... I'm not either of them Pas de soucis, l'évènement étant clairement hors norme, c'était dur de budgétiser à l'euro près. Encore merci d'avoir organiser tout ça, c'était énorme ! | |
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tojurub
Nombre de messages : 98
| Sujet: Re: World Cup 2023 : Et si la France l'organisait ? Mar 26 Nov - 11:23 | |
| - Pilaf a écrit:
- Tulkas a écrit:
- tojurub a écrit:
As Tulkas wrote, I'll be at the Bowl des Neiges next year and you can ask me any question you like, I'll try to answer all of them (as long as you ask me in English or German ) You better ask some bier in return for every answer We will have lot of question for you Here is my price list for questions: Questions, which can be answered with "yes" or "no": 5€ Questions where I have to use my brain to answer them: 7€ Honest Answers: +10€ Answers to pointless and stupid questions: 20€ + 2 beer Extra fee for answers which can be easily understood +50% Special fees for answers without words: Frowning: 1 beer Annoyed look: 2 beer compassionate grin: 3 beer friendly face: 50€ | |
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Tulkas
Nombre de messages : 3545 Age : 42 Localisation : Under the sea
| Sujet: Re: World Cup 2023 : Et si la France l'organisait ? Mar 26 Nov - 11:35 | |
| - tojurub a écrit:
Here is my price list for questions: Looks like a clue to the question about the overall budget of the last WC | |
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Bojo
Nombre de messages : 2103 Age : 47 Localisation : Esclave des orgas de tournois
| Sujet: Re: World Cup 2023 : Et si la France l'organisait ? Mar 26 Nov - 11:54 | |
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tojurub
Nombre de messages : 98
| Sujet: Re: World Cup 2023 : Et si la France l'organisait ? Jeu 28 Nov - 7:37 | |
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